Friday, 30 January 2009

Oil On Troubled Waters?

Thousands of British workers have taken spontaneous industrial action at refineries and other installations around the country in response to a dispute with Total at Immingham. After years, of passivity of the British Labour Movement the fact that workers have stood on their own feet to protest and strike is a good thing. Faced with increasing job losses that workers rather than being cowed, instead looking to their own strength for a solution to their problems is to be welcomed. For that reason, the workers taking this action have to be supported. But, socialists also have to tell those workers that the object of their strike is reactionary. Whatever, they say about the Italian and Portuguese workers employed at the site not being their enemy, the logic of this strike action is precisely that. It is a strike that places the blame for the problem of British workers on those foreign workers. The logic of the strike were it successful would be to throw those Italian and Portuguese workers on the dole, and for that simple reason the strike as it stands is reactionary. The maxim put forward by Karl Marx and the socialists of the 19th Century – “Workers of the World Unite” – is as valid today as it was then. Global Capitalism which is the real enemy here, cannot be defeated if workers are divided by race, gender or nationality, and fight against each other rather than uniting against the common Capitalist enemy.

Irony

The irony of this situation is apparent for anyone that looks at it logically. Total is a French Oil company. It has awarded a contract to an Italian company, which employs largely Italian workers. The objection of those taking action is that there are British workers unemployed who have the necessary skills to do the jobs required for this contract. They have taken the jingoistic comments of Gordon Brown about “British Jobs for British Workers” at his word. But, what would be the logical conclusion here? What if French refinery workers were to turn round and argue the same thing. After all why, they might ask, is a French Oil Company providing jobs for British refinery workers, should it not apply the maxim the strikers are demanding except as “French Jobs, for French Workers”. If the strikers demand were applied logically then the question of these jobs would not apply, and all those refinery workers would also find themselves out of a job as Total moved its operations back to France to provide those “French Jobs for French Workers”.

Down this road lies catastrophe for the working class, not just in the reduction in employment that would result from such protectionism, but in the greater power it would give to bosses resulting from such protection behind national boundaries, not to mention the huge increase in the cost of living as workers found themselves paying much higher prices for domestically produced goods. After all, I can remember not so long ago that if you wanted a suit made in Britain it would cost you a couple of hundred quid. I haven’t seen many people complaining about being able to buy suits made in China for a tenth of the price in the last ten years or so. And this dispute is really no different than that. If this firm had been an Italian firm based in Italy employing Italian workers making say shoes, would we have seen such action outside shoe shops selling those Italian shoes on the basis that those shoes could have been made by British shoe workers???

I was talking about this today with a worker from Bentley at Crewe. He too has just been laid off for a while. Apparently, the demand for Bentleys is still there but the buyers are afraid to turn up at their factories in a new £250,000 car when they’ve just laid workers off. His position sums up why the demand for British Jobs for British workers is not one that workers should adopt. He works for a German company (VW) producing cars the vast majority of which are sold outside Britain. As he said, what if VW decided to create “German Jobs for German Workers”, and shut up shop here and moved production to Germany. All the jobs at Crewe would be lost. Alternatively, what if foreigners decided that they should buy cars made in their own country rather than those made in Britain. Then not only all the jobs at Bentley, but probably many if not all the jobs at Toyota, Nissan and other car plants where a lot of production is exported would go too. The same thing was argued by a worker in the US last night on Newsnight. The US government has made it a condition of its stimulus package that steel and other products have to be bought from US companies. But, as this worker from Caterpillar said, 50% of their production is exported. If foreign countries adopted the same attitude then all their jobs would be lost the plant would have to close.


Marx

In the 19th century Karl Marx addressed this question.

In a speech on the issue of Free Trade he said,

“Do not imagine, gentlemen, that in criticizing freedom of trade we have the least intention of defending the system of protection.

One may declare oneself an enemy of the constitutional regime without declaring oneself a friend of the ancient regime.

Moreover, the protectionist system is nothing but a means of establishing large-scale industry in any given country, that is to say, of making it dependent upon the world market, and from the moment that dependence upon the world market is established, there is already more or less dependence upon free trade. Besides this, the protective system helps to develop free trade competition within a country. Hence we see that in countries where the bourgeoisie is beginning to make itself felt as a class, in Germany for example, it makes great efforts to obtain protective duties. They serve the bourgeoisie as weapons against feudalism and absolute government, as a means for the concentration of its own powers and for the realization of free trade within the same country.

But, in general, the protective system of our day is conservative, while the free trade system is destructive. It breaks up old nationalities and pushes the antagonism of the proletariat and the bourgeoisie to the extreme point. In a word, the free trade system hastens the social revolution. It is in this revolutionary sense alone, gentlemen, that I vote in favour of free trade.”


See: Speech On The Question of Free Trade

Despite that, in the 1970’s those who claimed to be adherents of Marx in the British Stalinist Party, along with their fellow travellers in the Labour Left put forward a thoroughly reactionary document known as the Alternative Economic Strategy that really set out to advise the British Capitalists how best they should run their economy. One of its main planks was the call for the kind of protectionism through import controls that Marx rightly denigrates above. It was a thoroughly reactionary, nationalist programme. Unfortunately, the British labour Movement, partly because of Britain’s colonial past has been marked with such a Little Englander, and nationalist odour for over a century. The clear nature of the current strike is shown by the fact that already the Nazis of the British National Party have jumped on the bandwagon parading a truck with a large billboard past the refinery.

A Real Grounds For Struggle

Speaking of workers strikes for higher pay, Marx said that such struggles could never be a solution to workers problems because they left the means of production in the hands of the bosses. As long as that was the case workers would continually have to strike to get better pay. The real answer was for the workers to take over the means of production for themselves. But he recognised that you can’t just say that to workers, its necessary for them to live in the meantime, and its necessary to support workers struggles even on an inadequate basis, so that they can learn to struggle for the real solution to their problem. That is true here. No socialist should condemn these workers for this action even though it is reactionary. It is the result of workers not having a clear picture of what the real solution to their problems is. That is not the fault of workers it is the fault of Marxists in not having related to the working class correctly for the last 100 plus years. The task of Marxists here is to support the workers, but to do what Marx advised to show them why the solution they think they want is not in their interests, and instead to provide them with solutions which are.

Global Labour

About three years or so ago I wrote a piece about the booming world economy, and I posted it here in the middle of last year Workers and Inflation . At the end of that piece I wrote,

“As the economic expansion of the upswing begins this demoralised and weakened condition is not easily shaken off. Confidence has to be restored, organisation rebuilt, new leaders developed. It takes time, and with new more productive technology the demand for labour may not rise quickly, and may rise in new unorganised industries. Indeed each Kondratieff upswing has tended to see the emergence of a new economic powerhouse that challenges and replaces the former dominant economy – in the present case China appears to be fulfilling that role, and that may require the development of a whole new Labour Movement.

I think all of these elements can be identified in the present conjuncture, and that should give confidence to Marxists that once more the conditions are developing for militant working class struggles. How these struggles manifest themselves will differ. In China wages are rising by 10% plus per year, and there are clear signs that Chinese workers are beginning to become more organised. The same is true of workers in South Korea and other rapidly growing Asian economies. Under these conditions workers struggles are likely to take on increasingly an offensive nature. Yet in the US, the UK and Europe despite signs of economic growth it is anaemic compared to China and elsewhere. The reason is that these economies are hugely inefficient compared to China which combines the latest technology, with low wage labour. Consequently, we see Delphi declaring bankruptcy with GM looking to be not too far behind.

In Britain we see Peugeot closing Ryton etc. Britain and the US also have a problem with huge levels of public and private debt which has been run up as an alternative to their economies cratering during the downturn, but it now acts as a drag on recovery. As with the PCE in France, it is quite likely that workers struggles in these old economies are likely to have more of a defensive nature, but as the victory of the workers and students in France demonstrates, and following on from the victory against the neo-liberal EU Constitution, which no doubt also helped develop confidence for this current victory against neo-liberalism, there is an air of change beginning to sweep into the Labour Movement even in Europe. In the US too, the demonstrations against the regime’s attempts to bring in new Immigration Laws shows that within the lower depths things are beginning to stir.”


That I think is a pretty accurate description of what we have in fact seen over the last three years. The strikes this week in France are just another reflection of it. But, as stated above these strikes are still of a defensive rather than offensive nature. That in part is the explanation for the reactionary nature of the strikes in Britain at the present time. But, as I went on to say in that article,

“Soon the nature of the struggles will noticeably change from being defensive to offensive struggles, and Marxists and Trade Union militants must be prepared to reorient to that situation, or there is a danger of being left behind the class. It will begin to manifest itself in another aspect of the Kondratieff cycle. During the last 20 years western governments have pumped huge amounts of liquidity into the economic system to reduce the effects of recession. As Marx points out when economies are growing rapidly they require increased amounts of money to be put in circulation in order to enable goods to circulate. When real money – gold – was used there was a self-correcting mechanism which threw out excess currency from circulation. But since economies have used fiat currencies in place of gold this mechanism no longer exists. Consequently, any increase in the amount of money tokens (paper money and coins) or credit over and above what is required for circulation leads to a devaluation of these tokens, and thereby inflation.

This inflation has not been manifest because of two things. Firstly, the prices of consumer goods have been kept down because of imports from China, and other low cost producers which have sucked up a large amount of this excess liquidity, and is then recycled into Chinese Foreign reserves and loans back particularly to the US, hence the huge trade deficit of the US and UK. Secondly, the liquidity has gone into financial and other assets – in particular creating a house price bubble in the US and UK. However, there will come a point where the current economic expansion, having used up the readily available labour and other resources, and faced with demands from labour for wage increases, as the demand supply balance for labour tips more in favour of labour, will lead to pressure for higher prices. The Chinese Stalinists are already fearful of the imbalance between the cities and countryside, and are trying in the latest 5 year plan to direct resources to the country. One project is to drive a huge motorway through to Western China, both as a means of facilitating the transport of raw materials from Kazakhstan and other Central Asian countries, but also to stimulate economic development along its route into Central China. The rapidly rising living standards of Chinese workers are already fuelling a consumer boom, and increasingly the Stalinists will be forced to divert an increasing proportion of output to meet domestic consumer needs rather than the needs of western consumers. Combined with the likelihood in the next year or so of a revaluation of the Yuan the consequence is going to be a significant rise in consumer goods prices.”


With the current downturn this forecast might seem unlikely. I disagree. The longest boom in living memory is what came to be known as the Post War Boom of 1949-74. But, in fact that was just one of several such booms since the beginning of industrial capitalism around 1800. The post war boom was marked by rapidly rising standards of living in the West, a large expansion in consumerism, of home ownership and so on. Yet, during that boom there were many recessions. If we take the period roughly equal to that since the beginning of the current boom in 1998, we find that there were recessions in 1948-9, 1953-4, 1957-8, and 1960-1. Since the current boom began there have been recessions in 2001-3, and 2005-6. The current recession is special because of the huge financial crisis that began in the Autumn of 2007, and was itself produced by the massive amounts of liquidity pumped into the economies particularly of the US and UK, and the explosion of debt that followed it, as referred to in the article above. But, on the basis of past experience we would expect the financial crisis to be ending within the next few months, and indeed as I wrote recently, Green Shoots? , there are indeed signs that the credit crunch is thawing – today British Mortgage lending expanded three times faster in December than had been forecast – and given the normal duration of recessions we would expect the current recession to be coming to an end by the second half of this year. In fact, given the huge global stimulus that has been made, the likely next problem when that recovery recommences, will be inflation.

What Now?

That doesn’t solve the issue for workers now facing job losses, and does not provide an adequate basis of struggle in place of those currently being fought for. The reality is that the solution isn’t simple or easy, and Marxists shouldn’t pretend to workers that it is. There will be those such as the Nazis who provide easy solutions like blame the foreigners, there will be those on the left who will propose “more militancy” or “blame the government”, but none of these easy solutions provide a real solution for workers. Those that put them forward are not really interested in doing so they are only interested in recruiting a few more people to their respective organisations.

The answer lies in a number of things none of which are immediate, and some that are. Firstly, rather than workers dividing and blaming each other for their situation, they need to come together even more closely than they are at present. The answer to low wage workers coming into Britain is not to impose immigration controls on those workers, but for workers throughout Europe to come together as a single powerful force to demand parity of wages, pensions and benefits in all EU countries. To do that we need to establish European wide Trade Unions, and European Workers Parties. Workers in the better off countries need to actively support through action, financially and politically the struggles of our Brothers and Sisters in the less developed economies for higher wages. The Trade Union tops won’t do that. WE need to build European wide organisations of workers at a rank and file level whose focus is on building a confidence at the shop floor level to take action themselves. The Internet gives the ability for such groups within a single multinational business to down tools simultaneously in support of each other.

The objection of most of the workers at Immingham was that they could do the jobs required. Fair enough, but what that really comes down to was not that they needed THESE jobs, but that they needed A job. The short term solution to that is that where over the last twenty years or so workers have been all too prepared to sell their jobs in return for a big redundancy payout – that soon is found to be not as big as you thought it was – that workers have to fight against job losses, have to demand that the work be shared out without loss of pay. But bosses will not only resist that, there is a point beyond which they simply can’t do it, because it would mean the firm goes bust. IN those cases we need to do what Marx and Engels advised we need to have a strategy whereby these companies can be taken over and run as a Co-operative by their workers. We know from the example of Tower Colliery that workers can run their businesses more efficiently than can the bosses. For one thing in a Co-operative there is no need to pay out high salaries for the top bosses, or for supervision, and more importantly there is no need to pay out dividends to shareholders who contribute nothing to the business whatsoever. For workers like those at Immingham, craftsmen such as joiners, electricians, plumbers etc., we know that there is in fact plenty of work that the community needs doing that would keep such workers fully employed. They don’t have to work at a refinery they could be building much needed houses, schools and other facilities, and if we used the finances available through the Co-op Bank, through Unity Trust, and especially through workers pension funds we could establish Co-operative Housing schemes that would employ such workers. And in building these Co-operatives that gave workers decent jobs, under their own control they could join together not just on a local or national basis, but could join with workers in other such Co-operatives across Europe, not only providing jobs for workers here and now, but strengthening the position of workers against the bosses, joining up with the Trade Unions to support workers on strike, and with the Workers Parties to prevent the bosses using the law against us as they would do.

The bosses seek to divide us. Don't let them

7 comments:

  1. A friend from uni told me about this site. It’s colossal. Where do you get all this knowledge from?

    I could best be described as someone who agrees with everything Marx had to say except the bit about the proles being the revolutionary class.
    Marx said that history is the history of class struggles but I’m not sure it would be more accurate to say, “History is the history of ruling class struggles”.

    I wrote a song to articulate my feelings, the first few lines are:

    It’s the day of utopia and the people are in charge
    Were all walking round with identity cards
    And they’re hanging people for stealing cars
    And it’s the same old shit in the pop charts.

    The dispute you talk about echoes my fears. If you took a scale of what this strike was about, 1 being Anti capitalist and 100 being narrow-minded racism, I would say this would stand at around 99.4.

    While I broadly agree with the logic of your article, I do have one concern.
    Why do people pay for cheaper goods, such as suits? Is it because the raw materials in China are more easily extractable? No. It has more to do with horrendous working conditions and poorer pay. By asking British workers to be thankful for this, we say to them, “It is in your interest to keep their wages and working conditions at the worst possible level to keep your commodities cheap. In any dispute between the bosses and the workers, you must take the side of the bosses”.

    Hope you can clear this up.

    Viva socialism.

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  2. “A friend from uni told me about this site. It’s colossal. Where do you get all this knowledge from?”

    Thank you for those kind words, and thank your friend for pointing you in this direction. I hope you’ll spread the word and point others this way too. All the knowledge. Started young around 10, been an active part of the struggle for 45 years since, devour books and other information, and read them again later because its amazing how you get a different understanding in the light of further experiences and knowledge. Being mildly autistic might help me to retain a large amount of it.

    ”I could best be described as someone who agrees with everything Marx had to say except the bit about the proles being the revolutionary class.”

    It would be better to disagree with most of what Marx said, but to agree with him on this one point. Without that there can be no socialism.

    ”Marx said that history is the history of class struggles but I’m not sure it would be more accurate to say, “History is the history of ruling class struggles”.

    That is basically what Marx says. The struggles are between the revolutionary class which is to become the new ruling class, and the existing ruling class. The new ruling class is revolutionary precisely because given the conditions existing at the particular time, in fighting for ITS interests, it also embodies in that struggle the interests of all other classes. The Capitalist class in fighting against feudalism embodied in that struggle the interests of the peasants and of the emerging working class. The working class is different only in that there are no classes beneath it. When IT becomes the new ruling class the cycle ends, there is no class beneath it for the working class to exploit.

    ”The dispute you talk about echoes my fears. If you took a scale of what this strike was about, 1 being Anti capitalist and 100 being narrow-minded racism, I would say this would stand at around 99.4”.

    I disagree. Racism is nothing more than a solution to a problem. It is a false solution, a reactionary solution, but nevertheless a solution. Workers face unemployment, uncertainty, in some cases poor housing conditions, other social problems and so on. They need solutions to those problems, which at root come down to the inability of Capitalism to provide them. Socialists should provide those solutions, should point workers in the direction of resolving them for themselves by their own self-activity, by creating Co-operatives of various types as Marx proposed, of helping workers organise to best defeat the bosses in Trade Union struggles and so on. Most importantly, of showing through the experience of those struggles why only the overthrow of Capitalism, and the establishment on first a national and then an international scale of an economy based on the same principles of those Co-operatives they have created themselves will provide workers with lasting solutions. But, Marxists who have a responsibility to do that largely haven’t for the last 100 years. Having seen the Russian Revolution they have simply thought that that is the way socialism will come about. They have tried to create organisations similar to the Bolsheviks, engaged in fantasy politics effectively waiting for the second coming of October. In the meantime they have neglected the work with the real working class they should have been doing, and in consequence the workers have been attracted to all other sorts of ideas, including those of the BNP which might be able they think to deal with their immediate concerns.

    ”While I broadly agree with the logic of your article, I do have one concern.
    Why do people pay for cheaper goods, such as suits? Is it because the raw materials in China are more easily extractable? No. It has more to do with horrendous working conditions and poorer pay. By asking British workers to be thankful for this, we say to them, “It is in your interest to keep their wages and working conditions at the worst possible level to keep your commodities cheap. In any dispute between the bosses and the workers, you must take the side of the bosses”.


    No not at all. What is better that Chinese workers remain as poor peasants, isolated, atomised unable to organise as workers, or that they are able, on the basis of a growing Capitalist economy, to throw off the limitations of peasant life, and by becoming workers thrown together with masses of other workers to begin to organise not only for higher wages, but ultimately to fight for socialism? We could say, we will not buy cheap Chinese products because Chinese workers are exploited and underpaid, but the real beneficiaries of that would be British bosses producing those same goods. The losers would be the Chinese workers who would exchange a badly paid job, for no job at all. In fact, over the last 10 to 20 years living standards in China have been rising rapidly for precisely that reason. Whilst real wages for ordinary workers in the US have been stagnant to falling for the last 20 years, and US workers now work two weeks more per year than they did in the 1970’s to try to compensate for that, real wages in China have been rising by 10% a year.

    At the end of the 19th century, Lenin who was arguing with a group of populists known as the Narodniks, wrote a huge book about Capitalist economic development in Russia. The Narodniks bemoaned the Capitalist development focussing on all the iniquities we know that Capitalism brings. Lenin, whilst not contesting those iniquities, instead focussed on the positives of that Capitalist development, on precisely the way it enables workers to organise, and more than that. He showed that it was in the Capitalist industries where wages and conditions were better than in the old peasant based handicraft firms, and generally the bigger the Capitalist enterprise the better the conditions were. Our task is not to set that development back but to fight for the interests of workers within it. The faster Chinese industry grows the stronger become the workers, the more they will raise their wages and conditions, the sooner they will be able to step forward as the creators of a new kind of society.

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  3. I will spread the knowledge, just don't sure for plagiarism!

    I'm all infavour of Chinese workers improving their pay and conditions and agree this will have extremely progressive results.
    I wasn't saying that we should boycott Chinese goods but pointing out that we shouldn't be rejoicing in how cheap these goods were.

    One more question, do you believe Co-operatives are the best path towards socialism, can you reference where Marx advocated this view? What are your views on the difference between consumer and producer Co-operatives and the history of these?

    cheers

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  4. Thanks for the clarification. I don't think I was saying we should rejoice about cheap imports, though clearly when any goods workers buy is cheaper that is good for workers, that's why Marx supported the campaign against the Corn Laws, I was simply saying that "nobody has been complaining" about being able to buy cheap Chinese suits rather than expensive British ones.

    On Co-operatives. I am in the process of trying to produce a fairly comprehensive article on this question. I've given lots of references in the past to Marx and Engels arguments in favour of Co-operatives. Perhaps, the easiest access is in this post Marx and Socialist Construction . If you do a search on the blog for Co-operatives you will find all posts where I have referenced them.

    The main sources are: Capital Vol III, The Critique of the Gotha Programme, The Address to the First International. There are quite a few letters by Engels on the question too where he comments that he and Marx envisaged that Co-operatives would have to play an extensive role in the transition from Capitalism to socialism.

    I also came across the following recently by Ernest Jones who was a Chartist and associate of Marx and Engels, and a member of the First International. I think it probably sums up there attitude quite well given Marx's comments in the Address.

    Ernest Jones . In particular the letter there "A Letter to the Advocates of the Co-operative Principle,AND TO THE MEMBERS OF CO-OPERATIVE SOCIETIES."

    There is a clear problem with consumer co-operatives. In a producer co-operative the very fucntioning of the factory/enterprise requires that workers co-operate (indeed that is true of Capitalist production), and that in the absence of bosses workers have to discuss the work process, make daily even hourly decisions. Because, the success of the enterprise, and thereby their livelihood depend upon the success of the enterprise the workers have a direct material incentive to particupate, to discuss and to make decisions rather than leave that to someone else, which is the norm for capitalist society. It DISCIPLINES and SOCIALISES workers automatically into a different conscioussness one in which they take for granted as part of their existence discussing and controlling their life.

    That is not true of a consumer Co-op. There is no pressing need to participate in its running. That is why few pople actually do bother to vote at meetings of the Co-op, and why it means its managemnt and control can pass into the hands of a permanent bureaucracy that can run it largely for its own interests. Of course, if workers begin to create producer Co-operatives, and I think that Housing Co-operatives, and Co-operative Management of housing estates falls more udner this heading than under the heading of consumer Co-op, then that raised conscioussness that is created by that experience, the way of life developed whereby you take for granted that you do take responsibility for your life and so on, then that conscioussness that view of life would be transferred to a whole other areas of daily life from political involvement in genral, to participating in the decision making in consumer Co-ops, health and education provision and so on. I still think that with THE Co-op it requires that it be transformed so that the workers in it have control as a Producer Co-operative, alongside a joint board with consumers in order to better guage and meet consumer needs. Indeed that would be something that would be needed for all Producer co-ops eventually because the idea is to repalce the market with production to meet directly the needs of consumers,a dn that would have to be identified by such personal rather than market relations.

    Hope that helps.

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  5. I should have added that Co-operatives cannot simply evolve to replace Capitalism. As Capitalism developed the feudal class put every obstacle in its way that it could in order to defend feudal production and society. It used its economic and social power, as well as its political legal power. The bouregoisie will do the same as marx points out to frustrate the development of real Co-operative enterprise by the workers.

    But, the bouregoisie as Capitalism DID develop used its growing economic and social influecne to develop within feudal society its own centres of power. Bouregois demcoracy as much as Capitalist enterprise grew up in the interstirces of feudal society. Capital associations and so on, discussion clubs in Coffee houses in the town which were the main centres of capitalist rather than feudal influence. And as the towns grew and local authorities developed for running the administration of the towns it was within them that bouregois political power developed,a nd bouregois demcoracy began to grow as an alternative to feudal political dominance.

    In the same way the development of Co-operatives have to be viewed as also a means of building similar bastions of workers economic, social and political power to be sued to defend and support workers struggles in general. There will be no simple growing over of Capitalism by Co-operative enterprises. Long before that could happen the bouregoise would use whatever emans was necesary to prevent its power and privileges being overturned just as did the old feudal class, and in their case the resistance was muted by the fact that they were able to turn their landed wealth into money wealth, and into Capital to merge themselves with the bourgeoisie. The Capitalists will have no intention of giving up their wealth and power in order to merge with the working class.

    The majority of workers will remain workers until the socialist revolution. Co-operatives will simply act as a means of building their economic, social and political power, and most importantly of demonstrating in practice that workers do not need bosses, or the bosses state, that workers can run businesses better than bosses, that the new society we describe is notsome utopia, but is entirely practicable and desirable.

    But, before Capitalism as an economic system could be fully developed in the 19th century the Capitalists had to secure political power for themselves, to establish a Capitalist State and thereby to be able to use that State to develop Capitalist economy under its protection. Workers will have to do likewise. Co-operative entreprise and class struggle willc reate the social revolution, the change in economic and social relations upon which arise the socialist ideas in the minds of the majority of workers, and even sections of the petit-bourgroisie and enlightened bourgeois. But, soon after that and before the big bouregoisie can unleash its power to destroy that development the workingc lass will have to win for itself political power, to establish a Workers State, or at least as an interim a Workers Government, which will then begin the process of finishing the transformation of property relations, putting all the main areas of production and distribution directly into the hands of the workers themselves.

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  6. One further clarification, I really mean to say that we should not rejoice at cheap imports if the reson for them are low wages and horrendous working conditions.

    I will read your Co-operative article with interest.

    In the article will you go into definitions. EG Is there a minimum number of workers in the enterprise to make it a Co-operative, is self employemnt a Co-operative? etc etc.

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  7. I am not saying rejoice whatever the cause. I agree with Marx in his comments on Free Trade and Protectionism that I quoted previously. I am saying the answer to the poor wages etc. doesn't come from boycotting those products, the exact opposite, and from how that helps those workers organise.

    Also, be careful about swallowing some of the stuff about Chinese wages and conditions. I'm old enough to remember in the 1960's being told the same thing about Japanese wages and conditions. The reality of the Chinse economy as with other similar economies is one of combined and uneven development. That is, there are undoubtedly a very large number of very small sweatshops in which the wages and condiitons are horrendous. But, there are also some very large, very modern businesses that probably employ the majority of workers, and certainly account ofr the majority of the value of production, and in these the level of wages and conditions will be considerably different, and its in these that workers are beginning to organise indpendently. These industries always puch out the smaller ones, though as in Britain you will always see some remain.

    Bear in mind also that although Chinese wages are much lower than here the cost of living in China is much lower too. My Kung Fu Master goes back to China frequently, and tells me that he can buy electronic products in particular at a fraction of the price the same things can be bought at here. That is why despite he wage differentials most Chinese workers save a high proportion of their income, whilst British and American workers save virtually nothing.

    On Co-ops a sole proprietor is not a Co-op. You can't co-operate with yourself. Having said that it depends on the sole proprietor. I was self-employed for a number of years, and tried as far as possible to operate accordingly. You can of course, gear your business to integrate with other Co-operatives. Apart from that there is no magical number. It depends on a number of circumstances.

    A Credit Union is a fianncial co-operative, many of which have been established on working class estates to overcome the problem of loan sharks, of people without bank accounts and so on. They don't require a huge number of people, but obviously you need enough to ensure that those that are at any one time aving with the union can provide sufficent money to loan to those that need to be taking money out. The Direct Works Units that used to ocne operate on Council estates were often quite small. You only need sufficient craftsmen to do the necessary work. In some ways for such an operation smaller is better ebcause it means that personal relations can develop between tenants and workers breaking down the alienation of labour. But, probably for purchasing a larger unit is better to get discounts and so on. Therefore, a federation of such co-ops would be advisable, the same thing is true of the use of Capital Equipment that can be shared amongst the Co-ops in the federation. In the USSR they used to have MTS (Machine Tractor Stations) which provided a stock of farm equipment to a group of collective or Co-operative farms. In fact, I though a while ago that it would be a good idea to have something similar on a national basis over the Internet, so that you could simply put in your Capital equipment requirement, and be directed to the nearest place where you could hire it.

    The rules for Co-ops are not the same as for private Capitalist firms because the goals are different, though, I am clear as with Marx that such firms MUST operate on a commercial basis, and not attempt to simply be socialist enterprises here and now. But, take the Direct Works example. A smaller unit that breaks down the alienation of labour might in purely bourgeois economics terms be less efficient than a larger unit. But, that does not take into account the inefficiency that arises from the alienation of labour, low productivity, shoddy work, days of sickness of workers and so on. In terms of the use values provided to tenants their is also probably greater value produced, greater control over your life and community etc. These things are important. But, I really must try yo devote time to getting on with the article itself.

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