tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post5177561375622042371..comments2024-03-28T11:04:16.315+00:00Comments on Boffy's Blog: Corbyn Must Go!Boffyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08157650969929097569noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-40087921609948207982018-12-29T09:28:24.248+00:002018-12-29T09:28:24.248+00:00David,
Its a problem that stems from the failure ...David,<br /><br />Its a problem that stems from the failure to push through the democratic reforms and mandatory reselection, so we have a small pool of even acceptable let alone good candidates. The other possibility is that Corbyn is forced to change position by the membership. McDonnell appears to have been more susceptible to take an anti-Brexit stance. I think that its McCluskey who would have the problem, as he is also going to be out of step with his members, who stand to lose their jobs as a result of Brexit, and a large majority of whom will also have voted Remain. Its Tories, and non-organised layers of the working-class that voted Leave.<br /><br />But, to be honest, its Brexit that is the decisive issue of the day. Provided we have all the necessary democratic reforms in place, I'd prefer a leader that opposed Brexit, and was controllable by the membership, even if the rest of their politics was a bit softer than Corbyn whose left politics are only fake left economic nationalism, and who appears more under the control of his Stalinist inner core than party members.<br /><br />I don't think that the choice actually does come down to a Corbynite soft Brexit and referendum, as opposed to May's version. I have written a post for my predictions for 2019, that will appear in a couple of days setting out why. Although Corbyn's position appears virtually identical to May's, the fact he does not then simply support her deal tells you two things.<br /><br />Firstly, he dare not do that, because he knows that would set off a Labour flare up to remove him. Secondly, it tells you his real position is probably not the one he is setting out. Either he is not competent, or is delusional and actually believes he could negotiate a better deal than May based on unicorns, and the EU giving him/UK a better deal than any state in the EU, or else he knows that is not possible, and believes that having negotiate and failed its the basis for pulling the UK out in a clean Brexit. The current position of opposing May, likewise, supports Mogg, and the No Deal Brexiters.<br /><br />In other words, the real position, as opposed to the stated position is a No Deal Brexit, covered by negotiations his Stalinist advisors know are doomed to failure in short order. As I set out in that post, it has to be put in the context of the kind of mentality of these Stalinists based upon catastrophism, which leads them to think that a serious crisis for capital somehow swings workers behind a socialist agenda (which it doesn't). A catastrophe following Brexit in this view leads to a justification for nationalising the commanding heights of the economy, and so on. Its a totally bureaucratic conception, based on manoeuvre implemented over the heads of the class.<br /><br />The same applies to Ireland. A No Deal Brexit means no Customs Union/Single Market, so the answer is a United Ireland. But, in such conditions the Unionists will resist violently. Again its a solution that could only be implemented from above on the basis of force, but this time involving a civil war that would inevitably flow over to the mainland, as the Unionists nationalist/fascist supporters in Britain came to their aid.<br />Boffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08157650969929097569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-55405179870023959712018-12-29T08:29:23.589+00:002018-12-29T08:29:23.589+00:00I follow the logic, but you have to ask, if not th...I follow the logic, but you have to ask, if not the Corbyn leadership, then who and what? Other available leftish figures - Abbot?Williamson? Lewis? - come with their own problems and the left campaign to remain has happily folded itself into the blairite/Tory one. <br />Corbyn has two left power bases; members and unions, mainly Unite. If a new leader went fully pro Remain, they’d face trouble from McCluskey and co. You’d swap one mess - the present Brexit position - for another - left Labour civil war. <br />In an election the wobbly Labour line of their version of soft Brexit or a referendum, though poor, could well be up against an even crazier Tory one of may’s unpopular deal or a fringe Singapore Brexit.<br /> <br /> <br />davidjchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18432693921346520951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-85404625058367534562018-12-26T07:15:47.070+00:002018-12-26T07:15:47.070+00:00I'm not jumping on any bandwagon. I'm hol...I'm not jumping on any bandwagon. I'm holding to the position I have always held. I would love to be able to continue to support Corbyn, but I can't given his position, and given the reality of the Stalinists behind him pushing this line.<br /><br />Firstly, Corbyn himself would have been the first to criticise Blair or some other politician who argued that they were trying to "keep both sides happy" rather than setting out, and promoting a principled socialist position. The job of political parties, particularly principles social-democratic or socialist parties is to lead, not to follow on the basis of keeping voters happy, and that requires taking a clear position not triangulating.<br /><br />No only may he "not" succeed in trying to negotiate with the EU, but he is bound not to succeed, because his position makes even less sense than does the Tories! But, more importantly, it requires going into an election or referendum, on the basis of a position that continues to argue FOR Brexit. It means saying that you are for Brexit, that you want to win an election on the basis of pressing ahead with Brexit, which is a reactionary, anti-working-class policy; or it means going into a referendum arguing for Brexit. The latter would be even more insane, because to abide even nominally with the conference policy it would mean demanding a referendum in which Remain was on the ballot, but then arguing for a Brexit vote in that referendum, so that you could then try to negotiate it. Total bollocks, which any sensible voter will laugh at from the start.<br /><br />Corbyn is NOT respecting the overwhelming conference vote. He is doing everything he can to avoid respecting it. He pulled every lever to get the composite through, just as the previous year he did everything he could to prevent Brexit even being discussed at conference. The overwhelming majority of delegates, and of party members wanted a clearer Brexit position committing the party to oppose it. 90% of party members want to Remain, but Corbyn doesn't, and he is putting his own reactionary position above that of the party. He is doing exactly what previous party leaders have done in ignoring the party membership, and he is following May's lead of trying to fudge and dissemble, so as to try to square the circle with the kind of semantics you have put forward here about respecting the conference vote, when its clear to everyone that he is doing the exact opposite.<br /><br />Saying the EU will agree to his terms is a lie. It would be like a trades union deciding to destroy itself by saying that it would give better terms to people who leave the union than it will give to union members! No sensible person believes any organisation, including the EU will do that. If the EU don't want us to leave, as you say, why on Earth A brexit negotiation, is not about negotiating do you think they would negotiate a deal with one of its current members, for that member to leave on better terms that it gives to the members that stay? Corbyn isn't proposing a negotiation for staying IN the EU after all, but negotiating the terms of Brexit!<br /><br />We should have been in the position where the Tories would have been ripped apart, and the Blair-rights and Liberals were a distant memory, had Labour been putting forward a principled socialist position of opposing Brexit. Instead, Corbyn by pursuing his reactionary nationalist agenda is destroying the Labour Party. That is why he has to go.Boffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08157650969929097569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-60902097339739019652018-12-25T22:18:53.269+00:002018-12-25T22:18:53.269+00:00Oh, not another one jumping on the anti-Corbyn ban...Oh, not another one jumping on the anti-Corbyn bandwagon. <br />He is, as usual, trying to keep both sides happy for as long as possible. Yes, he said he'd try to negotiate with the EU, but he may not succeed. Either way, he will respect the overwhelming vote at Conference which was in favour of a 2nd vote with an option to Remain. The EU don't want us to leave so they may well agree to his terms without us having to leave.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06064332014664351127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-74812017331189011782018-12-23T12:50:13.773+00:002018-12-23T12:50:13.773+00:00The comments from Corbyn appear pretty clear and u...The comments from Corbyn appear pretty clear and unambiguous, and consistent with the line he has taken in the past. If not, then he could a week ago have come out and made a public statement making clear that what Andrew Gwynne had said was not correct, and he could today make his own position clear, but he hasn't.<br /><br />All that is required is for Corbyn to say that in a General Election, Labour will stand on a platform to stop Brexit, or at least to put forward a proposal for a second referendum in which Labour would call for a remain vote - I prefer a General Election in which Labour simply commits itself to scrapping Brexit - or else, it should commit to supporting a second referendum in which Labour would campaign for a Remain vote.<br /><br />But, Corbyn has done no such thing. All of his actions and words - or lack of them - have led in the opposite direction, which is why I'm not holding my breath waiting for hims to disavow comments that have been attributed to him, and which are consistent with the line he has been taking over the last three years.Boffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08157650969929097569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-75389486855233097212018-12-23T12:37:16.072+00:002018-12-23T12:37:16.072+00:00Reading the Canary and Skwawkbox, it appears that ...Reading the Canary and Skwawkbox, it appears that the comments attributed to Jeremy Corbyn are deliberate distortions. This has been amplified by Another Angry Voice.<br />I just wonder what is going on?Karl Greenallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07156805807981796175noreply@blogger.com