tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post5035253072363063596..comments2024-03-28T11:04:16.315+00:00Comments on Boffy's Blog: Learning The Lessons of The ElectionsBoffyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08157650969929097569noreply@blogger.comBlogger70125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-17257772106059588272009-06-29T10:31:20.579+01:002009-06-29T10:31:20.579+01:00Sentinel,
I haven't been here for a while, bu...Sentinel,<br /><br />I haven't been here for a while, but your posts sound like the ravings of a lunatic. On the one hand a large part of your post seems to be a personal attack on Boffy - a person who from your post I gather you do not even know, and yet who you seem willing to make the most wild allegations, that do not fit with everything I have read about him - and on the other you refuse to answer any of the points made about the obvious contradictions between your own actions - which are not matters of speculation this time, but arise from your own freely given statements about what you do for a living and so on - and the politics of the organisation you belong to. Instead, at every turn you seem to want to launch into a tirade on some irrelevant subject such as the geographical location of the Canaries, which might hold some interest for Geographers but has little relevance on a polical discussion blog.<br /><br />As for your attack on the Russian Revolution, it is both inaccurate, and irrelevant. You cannot excuse your own hypocrisy and contradictions, let alone your support for Hitler's atrocities by simply saying, my guy was bad, but others were worse, even if your allegation were true. As I understand it, for one thing, Boffy is critical of the Russian Revolution, which is why he argues for Co-ops. But, on the point of the Russian Revolution, your argument misses one central point. The Bolsheviks introduced the Cheka, because Russia was under attack by 18 imperialist armies trying to restore the Tsar. There had been an attempt to assasinate Lenin, and the previous ruling class was organising sabotage and counter-revolution. On the other hand, your Hitler's cold blooded murder of 6 million Jews, the locking up of tens of thousands of TRade Unionists, the murder of thousands of disabled people and so on, had no such mitigation.Larry Williamsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-33041062501474642232009-06-22T20:47:53.842+01:002009-06-22T20:47:53.842+01:00"That very same state has used those very sam..."That very same state has used those very same armed forces against those very same British workers you claim to be the friend of."<br /><br />Again, you are just an obscene hypocrite as your two heroes Lenin and Trotsky carried out much, much, much worse measures against the 'workers' - that they and you claim to be the friend of - during their Red Terror.<br /><br />Indeed it was Lenin who created the first Soviet Secret police terror organisation, the Cheka and by 1921 just one branch of these organisation (Troops for the Internal Defense of the Republic) numbered 200,000 - <br /><br />"These troops policed labor camps, ran the Gulag system, conducted requisitions of food, liquidated political opponents (on both the right and the left), put down peasant rebellions, riots by workers, and mutinies in the Red Army, which was plagued by desertions" <br /><br />All on Lenin's orders - the supposed liberator of the workers was in fact violently oppressing workers actions and murdering them wholesale!!<br /><br />"At the direction of Lenin, the Cheka performed mass arrests, imprisonments, and executions of "enemies of the people". In this, the Cheka said that they targeted "class enemies" such as the bourgeoisie, and members of the clergy; the first organized mass repression began against the libertarian Socialists of Petrograd in April 1918…"<br /><br />And we are talking about very significant amounts of people murdered, the vast majority were peasants and workers the estimates range from 50,000 to 500,000 people murdered.<br /><br />"Lenin himself seemed unfazed by the killings. On 12 January 1920, while addressing trade union leaders, he said:<br /><br />"We did not hesitate to shoot thousands of people, and we shall not hesitate, and we shall save the country." <br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheka<br /><br /><br />And who was the second in command in the USSR when all this was going on? Trotsky.<br /><br />So Lenin and Trotsky are hardly the friend of the workers and nor are you.<br /><br />In fact you hate them with a passion.<br /><br />Again, it is easy to expose you as a hateful liar and will keep doing it everytime you post these hateful lies.<br /><br /><br />So, stay down 'boffy'!!!<br /><br />Its clear that once again you’ve lost the argument, and your preparing to bottle out again. We won’t miss your contributions this time either.<br /><br />Keep nodding your head, I'll keep hitting it!The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-18114702128963261782009-06-22T20:47:39.796+01:002009-06-22T20:47:39.796+01:00The reason you are not replying is becasue you hav...The reason you are not replying is becasue you have run out of lies and now have to stoop to the spam rubbish - so not only are facts that you do not like and cannot counter are "racist" they now "spam"!!!<br /><br />Amazing.<br /><br />And trust me, it takes only moments to demolish your lunacies, absurdities and lies.<br /><br />And all of this from you - a property owning capitalist who clearly took more then the average workers wage whilst contributing to capitalism in the corporations you worked for and a worshipper of the bloody mass murderers of the workers!!!<br /><br /><br />"further exploit your workers in this country, in Africa and other parts of the world"<br /><br />So employing people is exploiting them is it?<br /><br />And you claim that I invest capital in Africa has been laughed off for the childish idiocy it is - clearly the Canary islands is owned by the Spanish - not any African country - and any capital invested is in Spain and by extension the EU, not in Africa or any African country.<br /><br />Russia for instance sits on two continents, but it wouldn't matter if you, lived on, paid tax , etc. on one in Moscow or on the other in Vladivostok, you would still be in Russia and paying into Russia!!! And if you invested money in Moscow, which is in Europe you would still be investing in the same country as Vladivostok in Asia!!<br /><br /><br />The rest of your bizarre rant is very, very strange, even for you 'boffy' and just exposes more of your hatred: This time for British soldiers.<br /><br />I know that you - as a whimpering coward who was too scared and too weak to serve his country - do not understand the military but soldiers do what they are ordered to do by the people who have been voted in overwhelming by the 'workers!' - understand the implications of that, 'boffy?'<br /><br />British soldiers are the best in the world and follow legal battle orders without mutiny and leave the politics to the politicians who were voted in by the 'workers'!!!<br /><br />Without the British forces you most certainly not have had the freedom to be able to vent your pure hatred of Britain, its people and the British forces. You would most likely be speaking German and saluting your Fuhrer - and as a fanatic you would be most at home.<br /><br /><br />"but demonstrates again your hypocrisy"<br /><br />Besides your hatred of British soldiers, you also hate the workers and want to see them without employment and opportunities in life.<br /><br />You want to control the 'workers' in a disgusting, violent and murderous tyranny and cap any potential they might have or any freedom they have to make a better life for themselves.<br /><br />Your hatred of the 'workers' is obscene.<br /><br />And as a property owning capitalist your hypocrisy is boundless!!!!The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-48109664170937658032009-06-22T17:59:22.567+01:002009-06-22T17:59:22.567+01:00The reason for not replying to your spam is that ...The reason for not replying to your spam is that – its spam. Where it contains any argument, it’s so infantile as to be below criticism. I’ve let you continue wasting your time on it because a) no one here is going to be bothered by it, b) whilst you’re wasting your time on it, you’re not printing stuff to your own website, and more importantly, its taking time away that you could have been used to further exploit your workers in this country, in Africa and other parts of the world! In addition you have failed to provide any rational replies to the examples of your hypocrisy I’ve already set out.<br /><br />However, having given you enough rope, I’m happy, as you seem desperate for more punishment, to demonstrate how you have hung yourself once more.<br /><br />You have banged on about your military service, and criticised me and by implications others for not following your example in serving the British State. In other posts you have criticised the actions of that State in its invasion of Iraq. Indeed, you called these actions “fascist”. I’m sure that the innocent civilians of Iraq who have had their homes and livelihoods destroyed, not to mention over 100,000 of them who have lost their lives, would agree with your description! Of course, its not the first example of such “fascist” activity, by that State. You have referred to the role of that State under the Government of Winston Churchill in overthrowing the democratic Government of Mossadegh in Iran in 1953. Three years later it engaged in similar action in Egypt to try to secure the Suez Canal for British Capital. IN fact, all these actions were for the benefit not of British people, certainly not British Workers, who you tell us you and the BNP are the friends of, but of British Capitalists! If we look we can, in fact, find dozens more examples, including the whole role of Britain in enslaving peoples throughout the British Empire.<br /><br />Now an intelligent, rational person would see the obvious contradiction, and absurdity of your position here. But, as you are clearly neither intelligent, nor rational I’ll spell it out for you. If as, you describe it, that British State, is guilty of these “fascist” acts, reactionary acts that are a betrayal of the interests of those ordinary British workers you claim to support, why one Earth would any rational human being voluntarily make themselves the active agent of that State, make themselves the very means by which those acts are carried out???? Surely, a rational person given those facts would instead have served their country by opposing those actions, would better still have served it by becoming a nurse, or some other job that helped ordinary British people? Yet, not only dot you tell us you volunteered for this military, but you encourage other workers to do the same!!!!! Not only does it again demonstrate your stupidity, but demonstrates again your hypocrisy. Say one thing do the exact opposite, just like you employing your Capital overseas whilst arguing “British Jobs for British Workers”!<br /><br />Worse, than that. That very same state has used those very same armed forces against those very same British workers you claim to be the friend of. It used them to shoot miners at Tonypandy, it used them to break Firemen’s strikes, it used them in police uniforms during the Miners Strike. So given, all of these examples, including the ones you have given yourself of that State acting against Workers Interests, and acting in the Interests of British Capital, why do you tell workers to join this military? It could be because you are stupid, for which we have lots of evidence. It could be because, you are a hypocrite, of which we have an equal amount of evidence. But, the main reason is that you and the BNP despite trying to dupe the workers into believing you are their friends, are the active agents of the bosses AGAINST the workers. In fact, in many cases at the top of your Party, your members are bosses themselves, and like you the exploiters of British workers.Boffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08157650969929097569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-85733865465153713922009-06-22T14:18:38.387+01:002009-06-22T14:18:38.387+01:00Thats it, stay down 'boffy'!!!
Its clear ...Thats it, stay down 'boffy'!!!<br /><br />Its clear that once again you’ve lost the argument, and your preparing to bottle out again. We won’t miss your contributions this time either.<br /><br />Keep nodding your head, I'll keep hitting it!The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-31906038863825173062009-06-20T19:23:44.185+01:002009-06-20T19:23:44.185+01:00Montreal,
No, I didn't see that. In what reg...Montreal,<br /><br />No, I didn't see that. In what regard. I saw some trailers for it. Can you specify. I can always catch up on 4 On Demand.Boffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08157650969929097569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-34173124258791043952009-06-20T15:00:07.651+01:002009-06-20T15:00:07.651+01:00"that Sentinel believes constitute the master..."that Sentinel believes constitute the master race!"<br /><br />More baseless lies.<br /><br />You are the only one to use Nazi terminology here, and terms such as "ayran."<br /><br /><br />"I think that it is far better to simply challenge the logic that the fascists want to draw from the statistics than to get into a numbers game with them"<br /><br />Again, you are just a duplicitous liar as that is exactly what you do.<br /><br />Just as truth is your enemy, so is logic.<br /><br /><br />"To give one example. Sentinel has previously argued that black people are less intelligent than white people, though, of course, this is nonsense, and all the scientific evidence shows it to be nonsense"<br /><br />It shows the complete opposite as you well know and so does anecdotal evidence:<br /><br />"...the study shows that foreign-born school children lagged behind their Swedish-born counterparts, with students born in Africa falling far behind their native peers by 9th grade, even if they came to Sweden at a pre-school age.<br /><br />"The differences in schooling, especially for Africans, shows how they are not eligible in the same way as other groups for upper secondary education, as they are not achieving the right grades, even though we take into account how long they have been in Sweden," said Persson.<br /><br />"We don't really know why this is.”<br /><br />http://www.thelocal.se/16452/20081218<br /><br /><br />"if they believed that black people were less intelligent than white people, 60% of those who voted for the BNP, said “No”, and even 30% of BNP members said “No”!"<br /><br />And what is your point exactly?<br /><br />And you really think they asked all 940,000 BNP voters? And how could anyone could know who really voted for the BNP anyway?<br /><br /><br />"The fact is that the BNP are an irrelevance... In this week’s Weekly Worker"<br /><br />That's very amusing - the "weekly worker"!!!<br /><br />The fact is that you and your ideology are an irrelevance and you have no support whatsoever for its open practitioners!!<br /><br />The BNP have elected officials at every level - with MP's to come shortly - and a voting base of a million.<br /><br />But just to demonstrate how far out of reality you are, the country official opposition and party most likely to win the next general election - as opposed to losers like you with no support or officials, and losers who generally don't even field candidates because of the total lack of support - had this to say:<br /><br />"[Tory Party chairman Mr Pickles, speaking at a Westminster Press Gallery lunch, said of the BNP: "They are going to be a very serious force in British politics and the mainstream political parties have got to get their act together and start confronting them. <br /><br />"We have got to start working in those areas where they have got contact, harder than we have ever worked before. <br /><br />"That's the way you are going to defeat the BNP - you have got to take the BNP on. <br /><br />"They have filled that vacuum which Labour retreated from so long ago." <br /><br />http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8103626.stm<br /><br /><br />And so yet again, the truth is the complete opposite to what you have to say: It is you and your ideology who is an irrelevance that continues to have absolutely negligible support -whereas the BNP have considerable support and many elected officials.<br /><br /><br />But like I said Arthur, you couldn't tell the truth, even once, if your life depended on it: The truth is your enemy.The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-56948993995582358632009-06-20T14:59:55.028+01:002009-06-20T14:59:55.028+01:00"or else simply divert attention with a load ..."or else simply divert attention with a load of abuse, before going off on another irrelevant exegesis"<br /><br />I am the one being having profanity and abuse thrown at him, but of course projection is your game too.<br /><br /><br />"Why are these immigrants involved in these kinds of crimes?”<br /><br />Well, for one, when we can see the result of our, at best, misguided generosity we can stop any further occurrence of it.<br /><br />But of course, the excuses are out for you again - excuses I have demolished time and time again - and they have to be out for you because the truth is your enemy.<br /><br />In the UK and (and Northern Europe as well) not only do non-whites have laws that discriminate in their favour for employment along with race quotas but everyone has equal access to social security, and so in the worst case, the poorest non-white is as poor as the poorest white.<br /><br />And Denmark, Norway and Sweden didn't have "ghettos" until very recently, and they are not areas of actual poverty but voluntary enclaves of ethnicity. The Nordic bloc never imported foreign workers to make up a deficit, all of their immigration has come from purely "humanitarian" motivation and they have been well looked after.<br /><br />Your excuses do not hold water.<br /><br />And since when was rape and gang rape a crime of "poverty?"<br /><br />And even the most PC PM we have ever had, had this to say:<br /><br />"Tony Blair yesterday claimed the spate of knife and gun murders in London was not being caused by poverty, but a distinctive black culture...<br /><br />He said people had to drop their political correctness and recognise that the violence would not be stopped "by pretending it is not young black kids doing it"<br /><br />http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2007/apr/12/ukcrime.race<br /><br /><br /><br />"try to present such crime as being predominantly the work of all those Jews who they tell us control the world financial system as part of the worldwide Jewish-Bolshevik conspiracy"<br /><br />You just lie and lie and lie, all without a single scrap of evidence.<br /><br /><br />"but, the reality is that these crimes robbing ordinary working people of billions of pounds are committed not by Jews, not by black people, not by immigrants"<br /><br />But the shootings, stabbing, mugging and gang rapes are the work of the immigrants - mainly of black people. That is a fact.<br /><br />And I would rather white collar fraud that barley effects me to that any day - as I sure most normal people would.<br /><br />But either ways, the BNP will put an end to all of it.The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-33671345004452428682009-06-20T14:58:52.981+01:002009-06-20T14:58:52.981+01:00" in his hands 80%, of defendants in gang rap..." in his hands 80%, of defendants in gang rape cases, becomes 80% of black people are involved in cases of gang rape!!"<br /><br />You are the only one to claim that - just more silly games and futile point scoring.<br /><br />You cannot admit the obvious fact that the figure of 80% of all gang rapes resulting in black defendants is clearly a majority problem of just one group in the UK: Blacks. <br /><br />Can you imagine in a live debate someone questioning you about the hypocrisy of you positions? Workers in the audience would simply laugh you off the stage!<br /><br />That and the fact that you are a property owning capitalist who clearly took more then the average working mans wage whilst working for corporations.<br /><br /><br />"proclaiming that these figures were “historic”"<br /><br />And again, you show usual cavalier contempt for the truth - I made no such proclamation.<br /><br />The mainstream Swedish newspaper reporting it did - and why? Because it was true!!!<br /><br /><br />"The figures were in reality even on the basis of his own figures around 0.5% for emigration, and 0.7% for immigration!!!!!"<br /><br />In one year and its hugely increasing- on top of the already displaced Swedes and their Third World replacements - so in 20 years, Sweden's very existence is in peril.<br /><br />And just like every other country this has been inflicted upon, no one asked for it, voted for it or gave any mandate for it - and given that in Sweden it was found that a rapist was four times more likely to have been born abroad – with Algeria, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia dominating the group of rape suspects and that non-whites were responsible for 25% of all crime in Sweden with just the numbers there already, any more is a catastrophe.<br /><br />And this is the horrific result so far, the firm basis of the Balkanisation of Sweden:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diw5SneythM&feature=related<br /><br /><br />"He took the fact that some Jews were Bolsheviks and some were bankers and turned this into the Bolsheviks being dominated by Jews"<br /><br />Yet another lie.<br /><br /><br />"Were this a public debate with large numbers of workers present then it would be important to expose the inanity of Sentinel and the BNP.."<br /><br />Funny that, because the BNP gained more councillors - at the highest local government level - and two MEP's in this election and debated plenty - where the PC junta would allow.<br /><br />But do you really think that your position of hating me as a "boss" when I am a working class lad from one of the most deprived areas of London who served his country for many years and managed to make good for himself, purely out of hard work and self financed learning, and never borrowed a penny for to start businesses but used his own hard earned money, and who has created good jobs for people with good wages and mostly for Britons - jobs that wouldn't exist otherwise - is really going to endear you to anyone?<br /><br />Especially when you are a property owning capitalist yourself!!!<br /><br />You hate people that do well for themselves and make a better life for themselves and others - you want to see them ground back down to abject working class poverty; stunted from growth and denied any potential or future.<br /><br />You hate people.The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-79893423706385965022009-06-20T14:58:31.596+01:002009-06-20T14:58:31.596+01:00Why are you talking to your sock puppet again, Art...Why are you talking to your sock puppet again, Arthur? <br /><br />Using that demented and bizarre 'it puts the lotion in the baske' third person weirdness?<br /><br /><br />"this is after all ideologically, the Party of Goebbels"<br /><br />Not even slightly.<br /><br />But your failed ideology is the ideology of violence and has proven to be the most totalitarian, violent and sadistic ideology the world has ever seen with over 110,000,000 murdered so far and many, many more tortured, committed to asylums for political rehabilitation and imprisoned in gulags and camps.<br /><br /><br />"the Protocols of Zion"<br /><br />Nothing to do with the BNP at all. You are deluded as always.<br /><br />And this is the same protocols you think the Nazis forged?!! Even though they appeared at least 25 years before the Nazis even existed!!!<br /><br />Your ignorance is absolute.<br /><br /><br />"why he believes the Canaries are not in Africa????"<br /><br />As always, you are a very transparent liar.<br /><br />You claimed that I invest capital in Africa when clearly the Canary islands is owned by the Spanish - not any African country - and any capital invested is in Spain and by extension the EU, not in Africa or any African country.<br /><br /><br />Russia for instance sits on two continents, but it wouldn't matter if you, lived on, paid tax , etc. on one in Moscow or on the other in Vladivostok, you would still be in Russia and paying into Russia!!! And if you invested money in Moscow, which is in Europe you would still be investing in the same country as Vladivostok in Asia!!<br /><br /><br />"of advocating BRITISH Nationalism, and “BRITISH Jobs for BRITISH workers"<br /><br />As a British policy that doesn't apply in foreign countries you idiot - they are free to do as they choose, and business is encouraged.<br /><br />And I employ British workers in British job - jobs that would otherwise not exist.<br /><br /><br /><br />"Of course, as a BNP’er, his reason for using large slabs of spam quotes about crime and immigration have a political purpose."<br /><br />We agree there - quite obviously.<br /><br />But these are facts that need addressing and if it is not through politics then it will be through the violence seen in South Belfast recently.The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-3230031437591525312009-06-20T13:59:38.531+01:002009-06-20T13:59:38.531+01:00Thanks for this Boffy.
I think you are correct ab...Thanks for this Boffy.<br /><br />I think you are correct about Sentinel. In the USA Chinese workers were used to do many dangerous dirty jobs and were once looked down upon as inferior beings. Unfortunately these prejudices still remain but not, of course, to the demented extent that Sentinel exhibits.<br /><br />As I said in an earlier comment, if this guy was allowed to air his views on prime time TV, the BNP rise would see a dramatic fall.<br /><br />As an aside, did you see the I am running Sainsbury’s programme on channel 4?Montrealnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-51796698637972800942009-06-20T12:01:31.447+01:002009-06-20T12:01:31.447+01:00I think that it is far better to simply challenge ...I think that it is far better to simply challenge the logic that the fascists want to draw from the statistics than to get into a numbers game with them, which would go over the heads of many people. Rather than trying to argue AGAINST the absurdities spouted by Sentinel and the BNP, it is important to address our responses to the workers, who unlike Sentinel are capable of rational discussion. An encouraging sign was the poll conducted by Channel 4 News after the recent elections. To give one example. Sentinel has previously argued that black people are less intelligent than white people, though, of course, this is nonsense, and all the scientific evidence shows it to be nonsense. It is, however, a central aspect of the ideology of all racist parties like the BNP. But, the Ch. 4 survey showed that when asked if they believed that black people were less intelligent than white people, 60% of those who voted for the BNP, said “No”, and even 30% of BNP members said “No”!<br /><br />Racist ideas are deeply embedded in the British population due to our history, but those ideas are extremely brittle. During the US Civil War, starving textile workers in Lancashire were class conscious enough to threaten to black any cotton that British employers obtained from the Confederacy, because they identified far more with those black slaves than they did with British bosses. The millions of people who support various Appeals for famine relief in Africa etc. demonstrate a concern for human life, whatever the colour of skin it comes in. After all, as the BBC series, “The Incredible Human Journey”, demonstrated, we are all Africans anyway.<br /><br />The fact is that the BNP are an irrelevance. In this week’s Weekly Worker, Jim Moody argues correctly that we should not let them distract us from the real job of winning the battle of democracy amongst the working class, where whatever the bravado of the BNP, they continue to have absolutely negligible support. The same is true of Sentinel. A complete irrelevance.Boffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08157650969929097569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-20189859020752527472009-06-20T11:57:16.116+01:002009-06-20T11:57:16.116+01:00For example, Sentinel gives us all these statistic...For example, Sentinel gives us all these statistics about immigrants supposedly involved in various crimes, but he does not, of course, analyse the causes or implications of that. He does not ask, “Why are these immigrants involved in these kinds of crimes?”, because he already starts from the position of simply wanting to attack immigrants! By simply stating a “fact” he hopes that people will simply draw the conclusion that immigrants are innately criminal! That it is somehow embedded in their genes – that is particularly true given the racist politics of the BNP. However, that conclusion is easily shown to be false. The fact is that the majority of immigrants are NOT involved in criminal activity. So that criminal activity cannot be the result of being an immigrant. It must have other causes.<br /><br />In fact, we don’t have to look too far for what those causes might be. Last night, I was watching a BBC Four programme about the development of North Sea Oil during the 1960’s. The workers – all of whom were white British – spoke about the terrible conditions under which they were billeted, and in which they worked. They had no where to go outside their working time, and this inevitably built up a lot of stress. That combined with the fact that with nothing else to do, the workers spent a lot of time drinking, led the men said to around ten fights a night.<br /><br />You could find that story repeated in many places. But, was this violent crime a consequence of those involved being white? Was it a consequence of them being building workers? Of course, not it was a consequence of the conditions under which they existed, conditions similar to those faced by thousands of migrant workers all over the world.<br /><br />Take another example, there are many TV programmes along the lines of “Toughest Pub in Britain”. Very few of the thugs involved who make them the toughest pub, supposedly, are black, or immigrants. On the contrary, they are overwhelmingly white! In fact, many of the them are the kind of people attracted to the BNP! Or take another example, football hooliganism and violence. Again, the vast majority of those involved are not black or immigrants, they are white, and again the figures show, many of them are actual BNP members!<br /><br />Or take white collar crime, which is supposed to be victimless, but as the experience of the Credit Crunch shows, is far from being so. Now, of course, Sentinel, and his ilk would and do try to present such crime as being predominantly the work of all those Jews who they tell us control the world financial system as part of the worldwide Jewish-Bolshevik conspiracy – though given their recent support for Israel, they might be keeping quiet about that for populist reasons – but, the reality is that these crimes robbing ordinary working people of billions of pounds are committed not by Jews, not by black people, not by immigrants, but by those very white Anglo-Saxons that Sentinel believes constitute the master race!Boffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08157650969929097569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-82469240370761880852009-06-20T11:55:08.532+01:002009-06-20T11:55:08.532+01:00Montreal,
I have more time now to return to my po...Montreal,<br /><br />I have more time now to return to my post from yesterday. Basically, there are two points about Sentinel. Firstly, yes, he is a BNP’er, and almost without saying, therefore, ignorant and particularly stupid. His posts start from that in their content, and form – mindless assertions that often are based on dubious sources or facts – this is after all ideologically, the Party of Goebbels, the Party that printed and distributed in tens of thousands of copies the Protocols of Zion – but, which do not offer an rational argument even based on these assertions. Secondly, and more importantly he is a spammer. He complains about the Left not being prepared to engage the BNP in political debate, but then when he is engaged in political debate runs away from it to divert attention to everything under the sun! Can you imagine in a live debate someone questioning him about the hypocrisy of his position of advocating BRITISH Nationalism, and “BRITISH Jobs for BRITISH workers”, whilst at the same time himself owning a business in the Canaries, and in response him responding with a 20 minute exegesis on why he believes the Canaries are not in Africa???? Workers in the audience would simply laugh him off the stage! Yet, that is typical of his method on the Internet, spamming designed for no other reason than to tie people up in meaningless discussion and avoid defending his politics.<br /><br />Of course, as a BNP’er, his reason for using large slabs of spam quotes about crime and immigration have a political purpose. Actually, that purpose itself is a rather graphic reflection of the stupidity of such people on a socialist website, because it can fairly well be established that the vast majority of people reading the posts there are rational human beings, who are not going to be taken in by such ravings. But, the purpose is clearly to make the suggestion that black people or immigrants are somehow innately prone to such behaviour. Of course, as inheritors of the methods of Goebbels, people like Sentinel will then lie about, and misrepresent even these iffy statistics. So in his hands 80%, of defendants in gang rape cases, becomes 80% of black people are involved in cases of gang rape!!!! The actual percentage of black people involved in Gang Rape, being as generous as anyone could possibly be in the interpretation of his statistics, was not 80%, but 0.27%!!!! And, who were the main victims? Black people!<br /><br />In another example, he cited the figures for immigration and emigration for Sweden, proclaiming that these figures were “historic”. Well, perhaps they were “historic”, but in statistical terms they certainly were not SIGNIFICANT. The figures were in reality even on the basis of his own figures around 0.5% for emigration, and 0.7% for immigration!!!!! In the same “debate” he did the same thing when speaking of Jews. He took the fact that some Jews were Bolsheviks and some were bankers and turned this into the Bolsheviks being dominated by Jews. In fact, Jews were a minority of both bankers and Bolsheviks.<br /><br />But, although it is useful pointing out these facts to ordinary rational workers in this context against him it isn’t. Were this a public debate with large numbers of workers present then it would be important to expose the inanity of Sentinel and the BNP by showing their lies for what they are but it isn’t, as I said above he wouldn’t get away with his response in a Public Meeting with workers, and so he can simply deny the truth (as he does even with his contention of the geographical location of the Canary Islands!) or else simply divert attention with a load of abuse, before going off on another irrelevant exegesis . As I said, spamming. Here, I think it is more important to deal not with the statistics, but with the actual politics of the BNP – that is the implications they want to draw from those statistics. It is also important to simply expose Sentinel and the BNP for their real politics as thugs, and hypocrites.Boffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08157650969929097569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-37523029343320792732009-06-19T20:03:52.015+01:002009-06-19T20:03:52.015+01:00Why are you talking to your sock puppet Arthur?
A...Why are you talking to your sock puppet Arthur?<br /><br />And here we go with usual 'bottling out' smear tactics that you fanatics always employ.<br /><br />There is no spam here, just facts that you do not like and try to bury.<br /><br />As for the "15,000 word diatribe" rubbish - how long do you think this post was??!! Or your last one?!! Or your average post?!! Or even your responses in that "debate"?!<br /><br />You couldn't be honest, even just once, if your life depended on it Arthur - and that is the truth.<br /><br />I have demonstrated it to you quite a few times now Arthur: The truth is your enemy, the reality of truth destroys your Marxist myths whereas the truth is my ally, the truth is on my side.<br /><br />I am the only one actually taking part in a rational debate here and refute ALL of your points with reason, logic and evidence. <br /><br />It is you who resorts to silly little games such as googling the continental plate that the Canary Islands sits on when you were caught out on another lie that I invest capital in Africa - when clearly the Canary islands is owned by the Spanish - not any African country - and any capital invested is in Spain and by extension the EU, not in Africa or any African country.<br /><br />This has all been carefully explained to you, and I even included a simple analogy for you on how a political map works:<br /><br />Russia for instance sits on two continents, but it wouldn't matter if you, lived on, paid tax , etc. on one in Moscow or on the other in Vladivostok, you would still be in Russia and paying into Russia!!! And if you invested money in Moscow, which is in Europe you would still be investing in the same country as Vladivostok in Asia!!<br /><br />Oh the mistakes you make and the tangled web you then weave 'boffy'!<br /><br />I love it how you call me a thug when you publicly salivate over any violence or prospect of it that you and your failed ideology lives for - except of course when its in power, and then it proves to be the most totalitarian, violent and sadistic ideology the world has ever seen with over 110,000,000 murdered so far and many, many more tortured, committed to asylums for political rehabilitation and imprisoned in gulags and camps.<br /><br />And you have the front to call me a thug!!!! And again, as always, with not one shred of evidence.<br /><br />Of course, again, you tried to play silly little games on the figure of 80% of blacks being defendants in gang rape cases rather then actually dealing with the facts and refused to admit that gang rape is clearly a black problem; and of course you did the same with the immigration / emigration figures of Sweden that showed a historical record high of emigration at the same time of as the historical record high of Third World immigration; 1% is a lot of any countries indigenous people to be leaving every year, and obviously in 20 years at the same rate it would 20% indigenous left to 20% Third Worlder's in without factoring higher birth rates among other ethnicities - but the fact is that the figures are INCREASING so far and so it has immense implications for the future of Sweden in near future.<br /><br />But you are not interested in the truth or rational debate - you just want to lie and cheat and play silly little point scoring games.<br /><br />The truth is your enemy.<br /><br />And as for you "don't have the time" - we all know as you are unemployed you have nothing but time.<br /><br />Its the answers you don't have, Arthur.The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-68485440900390634842009-06-19T17:39:38.421+01:002009-06-19T17:39:38.421+01:00Montreal,
'm busy at the moment so this can&#...Montreal,<br /><br />'m busy at the moment so this can't be the respone I'd like to give.<br /><br />The first thing I'd say is that I don't think you understand what Sentinel is. A BNP moron yes, but more importantly he's just a spammer. I had a long pointless "debate" with him a while ago on AVPS site that began talking about the refinery strikes, and ended with him posting a 15,000 word diatribe on every subject under the sun!<br /><br />He isn't interested in a rational debate only wasting your time. If you notice much of his posts are just padding, stuff he's copied and pasted in that take up your time to read to no benefit.<br /><br />Nor is there, as you seem to have discovered any point in providing him with facts, because he'll just be annoying and say you haven't turning it into a schoolyard "Yes, I did", "no you didn't" exercise that is about typical of he BNP thug mentality.<br /><br />This is someone who rather than taking part in a rational political debate will dispute every map on the planet as well as a clear statement from Wiki Answers to argue that the Canaries are not in Africa. again that is typical of his method to just waste your time.<br /><br />The same as you seem to have found with statistics, which is why I've refused to get into a numbers game with him here. I've given the example that he's so stupid not to udnerstand the difference between<br /><br />80% of X = Y, and<br />80% of Y = X.<br /><br />I will look out when I have time another example where he made a big thing about immigration figures into Sweden. In fact, the figures amounted to less than 1% of the population!<br /><br />I'll come back on some of this stuff, and what I think should be focussed on when I have time.Boffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08157650969929097569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-43525084220154089842009-06-18T19:27:20.469+01:002009-06-18T19:27:20.469+01:00Hey sock puppet!!!
"I am not sure the weight...Hey sock puppet!!!<br /><br />"I am not sure the weight of international law is on your side"<br /><br />Of course not. Your ignorance is absolute. <br /><br />You should actually learn something about the grounding first before gobbing off. <br /><br /><br />"He said the trend (BIRTH RATES) would need to be reversed, how else could this campaign promise be achieved other than by forcing Muslims to stop reproducing or forcing whites to reproduce?"<br /><br />By reducing the numbers of them in the UK - hence: given that virtually every asylum seeker in the UK is bogus because under international law, as any genuine asylum seekers is supposed to seek asylum in the first safe country we have our first solution to the start of reversing the trend. You see?!!<br /><br /><br />"(Notice I ignore your first solution idea here, that’s because, even for you, it is so moronic that you may have secured a job on the BNP policy think tank committee)."<br /><br />It is sound logic actually, and even a sock puppet should understand it: Less foreigners means less foreign birth rate in the UK!!!<br /><br /><br />"How else can your insane crime analysis be anything other than a call to round up blacks and other ethnic minorities, tag them and impose curfews on them or worse?"<br /><br />They are not my crime figures at all, as you well know. They are all facts, mainly ones that governments tried to suppress and the 80% black defendant gang rape figure comes from a famous black activist!!<br /><br />Facts are racist are they?!!!<br /><br />What it does tell us - and every other western country - is what we can expect by importing more of these people into our countries.<br /><br />You hate these figures because they tear apart every last nasty racist lie you peddle.<br /><br /><br />"How else can your, laughable but at the same time dangerous, belief that only Anglo-Saxons represent the true English be interpreted, other than by some policy of determining everyone’s ethnicity to sort out the pure from the impure?"<br /><br />The very word English means Angle and very word England means land of the Angles - so any belief of yours to the contrary is both laughable and dangerous.<br /><br />Only Anglo-saxons are true English and only Anglo-saxons and Celts are true Britons - its a fact. We are the indigenous people and we have built this country up over centuries; the rest have been here for a blink of an eye and take far more then they have given.<br /><br />We have every right to make decisions about our homeland.<br /><br />So therefore only Anglo-saxons and Celts can be British citizens; whilst others may have residency - especially the Gurkha's.<br /><br /><br />"How else can your views on immigrants, bogus asylum seekers or indigenous minorities be interpreted, other than by hunting down, rounding up and incarceration on a mass scale?"<br /><br />Illegal immigrants and bogus asylum seekers will be removed and no more will be allowed in. Foreign criminals will be deported.<br /><br />Voluntary assisted repatriation will be available to all the rest.<br /><br /><br />"And how else can any of this be achieved without turning this country into a totalitarian police state?"<br /><br />Removing Illegal immigrants, bogus asylum seekers and foreign criminals and preventing any others is the JOB of the state as it is the JOB of the police - there is nothing "totalitarian" or remotely "police state" in border controls and enforcing the reasonable law of the land.<br /><br /><br />(PS you are a persistent twat, I’ll give you that)<br /><br />You're just a twat.<br /><br />I'll give you that.The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-25703910858637099062009-06-18T18:50:11.064+01:002009-06-18T18:50:11.064+01:00Shit for brains,
I am not sure the weight of int...Shit for brains, <br /><br />I am not sure the weight of international law is on your side, but your support of the Human rights act is a positive sign. (Or is it just that you are the dumbest man on god’s earth).<br /><br />He talked specifically about BIRTH RATES, i.e. how many children Muslims were having compared to whites. He said the trend (BIRTH RATES) would need to be reversed, how else could this campaign promise be achieved other than by forcing Muslims to stop reproducing or forcing whites to reproduce? (Notice I ignore your first solution idea here, that’s because, even for you, it is so moronic that you may have secured a job on the BNP policy think tank committee).<br /><br />How else can your insane crime analysis be anything other than a call to round up blacks and other ethnic minorities, tag them and impose curfews on them or worse?<br /><br />How else can your, laughable but at the same time dangerous, belief that only Anglo-Saxons represent the true English be interpreted, other than by some policy of determining everyone’s ethnicity to sort out the pure from the impure?<br /><br />How else can your views on immigrants, bogus asylum seekers or indigenous minorities be interpreted, other than by hunting down, rounding up and incarceration on a mass scale?<br /><br />And how else can any of this be achieved without turning this country into a totalitarian police state?<br /><br />(PS you are a persistent twat, I’ll give you that)Montrealnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-30511061630500559502009-06-18T17:58:54.047+01:002009-06-18T17:58:54.047+01:00Hey sock puppet!
Back again!
"He said tha...Hey sock puppet! <br /><br />Back again!<br /><br /><br />"He said that this trend would have to be reversed!"<br /><br />Yip - he DIDN'T say anything about the BNP "would want to sterilize all Muslims or more likely you would force white people to have babies, possibly by enslaving women" now did he?<br /><br />That was yet another hysterical lie wasn't it?<br /><br />And given that virtually every asylum seeker in the UK is bogus because under international law, as any genuine asylum seekers is supposed to seek asylum in the first safe country we have our first solution to the start of reversing the trend.<br /><br />Again, your ignorance is absolute and matched only by your dishonesty and lack of integrity.<br /><br />You have been thoroughly demolished as 'boffy' and as a sock puppet on every single point.<br /><br />But you are right about one thing - you are a waste of time.The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-83980967866005047652009-06-18T17:21:07.579+01:002009-06-18T17:21:07.579+01:00Sentinel,
Judging by your comments and the name S...Sentinel,<br /><br />Judging by your comments and the name Sentinel, if I am a sock puppet then you sound like a retarded super hero.<br /><br />Now I think that I have wasted enough time trying to extend your narrow isane view of the world but I need to make a few final comments.<br /><br />Re the BNP concern for Muslim birth rates compared to whites, this is exactly what a BNP councillor said when being interviewed on Sky news last week!<br />He said that this trend would have to be reversed!<br /><br />For a right wing nut job you are not very clued up on the right wing nut job party beliefs. Your ignorance is absolute.Montrealnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-58329412388412923932009-06-18T14:25:41.678+01:002009-06-18T14:25:41.678+01:007) There is no right in law to join a party with a...7) There is no right in law to join a party with a membership criteria you lying fool - hence the BNP is a perfectly legitimate party with elected officials at all levels and two MEP'S!!!<br /><br />Joining a political has never been a right, but being discriminated against for being a member of one has. One that you and your fascist cronies are trying their best to destroy. But you wont.<br /><br />8) I point out facts that you do not like and cannot counter and the BNP has a much lower rate of individual convicted then the establishment parties - the latest convicts two from Labour were a racist thug and a nonce and the Tories, a rapist of a 13 year old girl. And the SWP have a serial killer of gay men!!!<br /><br />9) You are a complete idiot. I employ people and provide jobs and wealth!!! People can work for whoever they want - we still have that freedom you hate so much!!! You really are a deranged muppet!!!<br /><br /><br />So all we come down to is your lies exposed once again for all to see and the fact that you hate the Gurkha's so much you want to disband them and take away their livelihoods, their traditions and their route to UK residency.<br /><br /><br />"So rather than wasting my time responding to any more of your spam comments here I will alolow you the time instead to go seek some profeesional help for your condition!"<br /><br />Which means that you have run out of road on your lies and to quote you a few post back: "Its clear that once again you’ve lost the argument, and your preparing to bottle out again. We won’t miss your contributions this time either."<br /><br />YOU HAVE FAILED TO PROVE EVEN ONE OF YOUR LIES!!!!The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-82958720953663793222009-06-18T14:25:28.121+01:002009-06-18T14:25:28.121+01:00Once again, you call facts you don't like and ...Once again, you call facts you don't like and cannot disprove spam in another demonstration of your dishonesty.<br /><br />The canaries are not IN Africa, and are owned by the Spanish in any case which is part of the EU and so any capital investment in the Canary Islands is an investment in Spain and by extension the EU - that is the truth of the matter - it is you who brings it to the bizarre by goggling which continental plate it sits on!! It doesn't matter to normal people - you are wrong, I have made no capital investment in Africa!!!!<br /><br />NORMAL PEOPLE LAUGH AT YOUR INSANITY AND DISHONESTY!!!<br /><br /><br />"The point is that I don’t care WHO made THAT claim"<br /><br />Of course you say you don't - you don't care for facts anyway, but you would care if it was someone you were able to brand as a Nazi and racist. But at least you now accept it as fact. Progress in your treatment.<br /><br /><br />"that it is not the same as your assertion drawn from it that 80% of black people have been involved in gang rape"<br /><br />I have never made that claim - you have.<br /><br />But the FACT is THAT in GANG RAPE cases 80% of the defendants are BLACK - and you just try and lie and squirm around the fact that normal people find that very shocking and very QUITE OBVIOUSLY indicative of a trend - and we do not have to expand upon — that is the truth. <br /><br /><br />"As far as I’m concerned they are closed."<br /><br />But then go on to post more rubbish in any case.<br /><br />Of course you want it to be closed, you hate the truth, but people all over the western world are SICK of it and being the VICTIMS of COLOSSAL and unnecessary ETHNIC crime rates - hence the rise all over Europe and the rise of the BNP!!<br /><br /><br />"Given Montreal's sharp criticisms of my positions over the last year"<br /><br />Most likely your sharp criticism of yourself to draw attention to your lonely blog and to provide credence who you use your sock puppet to attack others; and it is well know technique of the extreme left.<br /><br /><br />1) I am a British nationalist who has put his life where his heart is and served this country for many years in some of the most dangerous shit holes on the planet whereas you are a coward who was to scared to. <br /><br />I am a self made working class business man who ha doesn't subscribe to your hateful anti-freedom creed and do business wherever I choose bringing more jobs and wealth to Britons; you are a hypocritical capitalist property owner who fuels further capitalism and clearly took more then the average man from the wage system.<br /><br />Yet another ignorant lie here - The BNP do not have anything to say about business abroad - just that in the UK the priority is for British jobs for British Workers - and I have created those jobs.<br /><br /><br />2) I don't have to defend anything. I am pointing out how absurd your lie that I invest "Capital in Africa" when clearly any capital invested in the Canary Islands is capital invested in Spain, and the EU and as the UK is a part of the EU some of the money comes back in any case.<br /><br /><br />3) He is not a leading member of the party, he is an MEP. He was convicted one offence in 62 years of life by way of a summary hearing by an untrained amateur in a police court on the word of one police officer. But it has nothing to do with me in any case. I served with the Gurkha's many times, still have Gurkha friends and campaigned to help them.<br /><br />Whreas you do not know them at all; have done nothing to help, and want to disband their regiments and prevent them from earning the right to come to the UK<br /><br /><br />4) There is an exception to any rule. <br /><br /><br />5) Rubbish. Already refuted in depth.<br /><br /><br />6) No, there is not. Already refuted in depth.The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-52004166326411143832009-06-18T10:15:31.631+01:002009-06-18T10:15:31.631+01:00Sentinel,
Given Montreal's sharp criticisms o...Sentinel,<br /><br />Given Montreal's sharp criticisms of my positions over the last year, long before you made any comment here, only a deluded fool could believe that he was some kind of sock puppet. You seem to fit that description perfectly.<br /><br />It is perhaps an inication of the kind of irrational, intemperate people that the BNP attracts that your commenst here quickly descended from anyhting approaching rationality to simply, a series of violent, and hystrerical outbursts, reminiscent of a spoiled child that has lost the argument, and resorts to simply shouting out absurdities.<br /><br />That is what your politics amounts to a kind of Political Tourets.<br /><br />For that reason its clear that you obviously have some severe mental and emotional problems, and as a compassionate person I have no desire to see you suffer even if I have no time for your political positions. <br /><br />So rather than wasting my time responding to any more of your spam comments here I will alolow you the time instead to go seek some profeesional help for your condition.Boffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08157650969929097569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-24610855810533735992009-06-18T09:39:56.160+01:002009-06-18T09:39:56.160+01:00The substantive points are.
1. You claim to be a ...The substantive points are.<br /><br />1. You claim to be a British Nationalist yet not only do you spend a large proportion of the year outside Britain, but you have established businesses outside Britain, thereby according to BNP logic denying British workers of jobs. Your position is hypocritical.<br /><br />2. You now try to defend yourself by saying that these businesses are in the EU. But, the BNP OPPOSES the EU, it is as opposed to jobs going to workers in the EU rather than Britain, as it is to those jobs going to any other country! Your position is hypocritical.<br /><br />3. You claim to support the right of the Ghurkhas and their families to come to Britain. But, a leading member of your party was convicted for describing a British policemen of Asian descent as “an inferior being”. Yet more hypocrisy.<br /><br />4. You say that you are in favour of an unlimited number of Ghurkhas and their families coming to Britain (which is good), but the policy of your Party is to OPPOSE ANY further immigration of non-whites into Britain. Hypocritical.<br /><br />5. You say you are in favour of favour of an unlimited number of Ghurkhas and their families coming to Britain (which is good), but the policy of your Party is to encourage voluntary repatriation of non-whites, which would mean telling all these Ghurkhas when they got here that they were unwanted, (after all your your BNP street thugs would not know that they were the wives or children of Ghurkhas they were beating up on the streets would they?) and then asking British taxpayers to pay for them all to go home! Hypocritical and totally stupid!<br /><br />6. You say, you are in favour of an unlimited number of Ghurkhas and their families coming to Britain, because of their service to the British military, as a means of them obtaining a better life. But, there are lots of people in Asia who have provided service to Britain over the years, and plenty who also want to come here for a better life. But you are not in favour of them coming here. On the contrary you want to prevent any further non-white immigration. More hypocrisy.<br /><br />7. You say you admire the Ghurkhas and want them to come to Britain in unlimited numbers (good), but not only do you then want to treat them as second class citizens, but you want to deny them the basic right guaranteed in BRITISH Law not to be discriminated against, by denying them the right to join your Party! Hypocrisy.<br /><br />8. You go on about crime etc. as a means of attacking black people – only a minority of whom have been involved in crime – and yet the BNP as a Party has a very high percentage of people who have been convicted of violent crime, and its leader says that it will use fists and boots rather than rationality to get its way! Hypocrisy. In fact, your own methods here and elsewhere demonstrate just how incapable BNP members are of rationality, and how quickly you become hysterical when you have lost the argument. Perhaps you could tell us what convictions you have yourself?<br /><br />9. You claim that you are a Party for British workers, yet you have told us that you are yourself a boss that exploits not just British workers, but who exploits foreign workers too. Yet more hypocrisy.<br /><br />You have shown that you have no answers to any of these points and rather than answer them simply go off on a wild ramble of everything under the sun to avoid answering them. Once again you are exposed for what you are.Boffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08157650969929097569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6263577133333272085.post-6297509727449111182009-06-18T09:38:59.841+01:002009-06-18T09:38:59.841+01:00Sentinel,
Once again you resort to pages of spam ...Sentinel,<br /><br />Once again you resort to pages of spam to hide the paucity of your argument. The fact that you are prepared to embarrass yourself by resorting to the kind of absurdities that a five year old uses once they have lost an argument such as your ridiculous statement that the Canaries are not “in” Africa, but off the coast of Africa (nah,nah, nah, nah) as a means of diverting attention from the substantive point shows just how desperate you are not to defend yourself.<br /><br />The same is true with your attempt to misrepresent the argument over the 80% figure for gang rapes. The point is that I don’t care WHO made THAT claim, the point is that it is not the same as your assertion drawn from it that 80% of black people have been involved in gang rape. Those are two quite different statements as any rational person knows. Yet even now you conflate the two. Either you are the stupidest person I have ever come across, or again it shows how desperate you are to divert discussion with such spam that again you are prepared to embarrass yourself with such statements to do so.<br /><br />Either way, you have totally exposed yourself and your method with those kinds of arguments. As far as I’m concerned they are closed. If you want to embarrass yourself further, knock yourself out.Boffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08157650969929097569noreply@blogger.com